Kea [00:00:03] The podcast where we sip and spill, welcome back to Tea With Kea. Hello, all of my listeners out there. Thank you guys for tuning in. Want to let you know what’s up on today’s episode. Got somebody real special to me on this show. Introduce yourself to the people out there.
Sean [00:00:27] Dre Sama or known, commonly known as Sean around Greensboro, North Carolina, but outside of Greensboro, North Carolina. They know me as Dre Sama or Dre. So let’s meet you.
Kea [00:00:39] What do you want the people to know about you
Sean [00:00:42] that still move mysteriously? So this anonymous note, that makes sense. But also I’m still producing. I just always remember I’m still producing no matter what, no matter what kind of downtime there is or if the whole country is on fire, still making beats no matter what. So most people, you know, consistency is key.
Kea [00:01:05] Exactly. That’s what matters. That’s what matters. Well, I know you said that you’re not sipping on something right now, but if you were sipping on something right now, what would it be?
Sean [00:01:15] It would be between ginseng tea in the tea that helps you out when you forgot the coats or something like that.
Kea [00:01:26] That one’s really good. Actually, I have actually mentioned that. Yeah, I feel that like one hundred percent. I think I think it’s traditional medicinal that makes it. I know like in an earlier episode I was like in Kroger with one of my friends and we were, we were talking about it. That’s definitely a good one. I’m sipping on. So I actually I hadn’t heard of this tea. I was actually walking in Kroger the other day and I was grocery shopping and so has this. Yeah.
Sean [00:01:54] Oh, OK. Forgetting that I keep forgetting you pass through the Mason-Dixon line, all the Haraszti Kroger’s. I forgot.
Kea [00:02:02] Yes, I’m OK because real talk when I moved to Atlanta I had no idea. I had never heard of Kroger. I was like, what is this nonsense? Because yeah, like there’s no Harris Teeter or food lines here.
Sean [00:02:14] I think that’s this. I mean, that’s what it is down. This is Kroger, you know, just I didn’t know I was there. Was there a BOLO down there at all?
Kea [00:02:22] Is there. No, no. Yeah. OK, so basically Kroger is the equivalent because it’s literally every other mile.
Sean [00:02:29] So yeah. Just so. Yes. So like every place is supposed to be like Blueline or cerebella Kroger. I remember going to the store until Michael Jackson thought it was big on to Ohio and they had Kroger so.
Kea [00:02:43] Oh really.
Sean [00:02:44] Oh I mean I think so. That’s where exactly when I want to send Sandusky for Cedar Cedar Point because they have the fastest roller coaster. And it just so happened that week, Michael Jackson. So, you know, that was Michael Jackson fans everywhere like Michael Jackson, music playing everywhere. So but I remember going into Kroger and they had like a whole wall full. It is Michael Jackson magazines. Oh, it is just just to sell them, I guess. But yeah, I think I’m going to you once or twice. But why not North Carolina. I know that for a huh.
Kea [00:03:17] Yeah, no, not at all. Well it’s crazy too because so when I left Greensboro we didn’t have Publix and now like there’s a Publix in Greensboro. So it’s crazy because, you know, yeah. It’s like I think it’s out like half like Adams Farms, this area is it. I know my mom was like we got public. I’m so excited.
Sean [00:03:39] Is it just one?
Kea [00:03:40] Just like I mean, it’s like, you know, when I’m coming home, I’m not focusing on grocery shopping. I really be focusing on eating instead. And you the groceries already, they’re not going to last.
Sean [00:03:50] Understandable.
Kea [00:03:52] But yeah, I was like rocketing Kroger and I passed by. Yeah, they have this like T-. It’s called Joy. It’s like. So it’s a black tea. Well it’s like black and green tea but it’s like it’s oh you look like a peachy hint and it’s like really good. Like I’m drinking it right
Sean [00:04:08] now and it’s delicious actually.
Kea [00:04:10] It is. It’s really good. Well they said it’s like a seasonal t so like I don’t know if, you know, when like springtime rolls around, if it’s still going to exist, but I really like it. And that is my cup for this episode. So, yeah, I’ve got
Sean [00:04:27] to collect all the boxes so you can just in case it is seasonal, you know, so you can just flexcel people like oh I got this peach but it’s going to be right here. What do you know that was like. Oh that was his last season and you could be like, oh this is smart enough to like stock up.
Kea [00:04:43] Just imagine. Oh God I like stuff like that. Like happens with my mom. She’ll like something that comes out and it’s only temporary and then it’s like gone like way, way, way, way back in the day, like when Vanilla Coke came out and like they brought it out for a little bit and then they took it away and then like I mean like. It still exists now, but, yeah, it’s something but try new things, you know, you might just be walking and you’re like, oh, this my tastes delicious. Let me see what’s up.
Sean [00:05:13] I’m still trying new things every day of the month since I started sushi. Not so long. I’m starting to eat other sushi rather than just like the shrimp sushi to be safe, you know, because I want to expand my taste buds. I was making salmon after this.
Kea [00:05:30] Oh my God. I’m like so like in love with that statement because the way in which sushi is just like there’s just so many different rules you can go and it’s like so delicious. And if I was like if I had like money I would eat sushi like all
Sean [00:05:45] the same here. Savir is all drug rules like California rules. The possibilities are endless because it depends on who’s making it and how. It depends on the creativity of the person who is making less is less. Why every sushi restaurant is different.
Kea [00:06:03] Exactly. Exactly. It’s like art. But food, you know. Well, I mean, it’s art.
Sean [00:06:09] But the way that they do it is is art love. If you ever watch and do it, especially with the bamboo sticks and all that stuff, this is exquisite.
Kea [00:06:20] What way do you ever, like, make sushi yourself, like at home?
Sean [00:06:25] I know my brother knows how to, but me personally, I haven’t gotten that far. I could cook. Well, I’ve got enough for you.
Kea [00:06:33] Yeah. It’s like a fun little new thing. I mean, people, you know, it’s kind of like do new things like New Year, new, whatever you like.
Sean [00:06:40] Oh, well, you just gave me a goal for next year. You learn how to make sushi, how to make it work and make a difference. Somebody put bacon and mussels. You never know turkey bacon if you like swans.
Kea [00:06:55] I mean, I’m not opposed to that, you know, but I’m going to shoot as long as you like it. That’s all that matters.
Sean [00:07:02] You know, that’s understandable. Oh, you
Kea [00:07:06] know, I’m into, like, ask you this because I actually like a kid. I remember because. OK, so like, when I have you on the show, I like to talk about how we know each other. And obviously we went to school together. But do you ever like the actual first first time that we met?
Sean [00:07:22] I think about it all the time because it was the first time I was on stage. But I’ve missed you at the talent show 2011 se you was doing something with Lauren Lauren, if that’s her name.
Kea [00:07:37] I know that. Yeah, we were both in a talent show because like I sang, I know that she played the piano. Yeah. Oh my God. I was like wow.
Sean [00:07:45] I was doing ad libs for Fantasia because her and her brother was pretty darn big in Greensboro at the time. So I was like, why not? So. So I was doing it. God, no, please. All of those fishes, if you know.
Kea [00:07:59] OK, real talk like I, I know for a fact, I’m actually I’m actually curious because I feel like I feel like I had posted them because sometimes I get like you know, like nostalgic. Yeah. Really. Like just like go back and like look at old photos.
Sean [00:08:14] Oh yeah. I was definitely. So you’re not human if you don’t I swear.
Kea [00:08:19] Yeah. Yeah. I’m really like way like can I actually find these because I’m picturing it like in my mind. Oh my gosh. OK, ok. So obviously phones were like way different back then.
Sean [00:08:33] Of course it was 2011, the decade I.
Kea [00:08:38] Yes I have the photo. Oh my goodness. OK, so I posted it January twenty seventh 2012 and I tagged you and Fantasia. Oh my goodness. I’m actually would like send you this screenshot on Instagram.
Sean [00:08:52] Oh I have it in my head. All right. I was going through my ass Rocky tell these things. It was just SEALs said that’s the picture I’m thinking about right now.
Kea [00:09:04] My goodness. All the fields. All the fields. No like that was like fun. I mean, we were young and like we like, you know, we were already, like, created and we were expressive and like I mean,
Sean [00:09:18] figure out who he was.
Kea [00:09:20] I’m sure I’m still trying to do that. Not like going on stage. Like takes it takes courage, you know, like it. Not everyone can go up on stage.
Sean [00:09:28] I go to every show that I do and you see me on stage. My face is called because, you know, that’s my meaning. But my heart is always racing. Three hundred times I almost had a heart attack those days.
Kea [00:09:40] Every time, really
Sean [00:09:42] every time is because I don’t let it get to me because this is what I want to do. You know, I’m saying I’m like, I’m about to lose. I’ve you stopped me right now of all times, you know? And so I go on stage, I’ll do my work. But the entire time my heart is racing, inspiration, heart. And that’s why you sing so far. So I’ll say it’s not because it’s hot, because. Heart is beating a million miles per second, but try to keep it cool at the same time, which I do pretty well, I would say. Yeah, I’m always nervous, but I’ll never I’ll never show enough. I’ll never let people have that satisfaction.
Kea [00:10:19] I feel that she. Well, yeah, because it’s like if your face is like, OK, yeah, I got this. You know, we’re not mind readers, so we’re just like, oh yeah. OK, God bless you.
Sean [00:10:29] Well and is Liboi. No she truly.
Kea [00:10:33] Oh my
Sean [00:10:34] God. Really messed up on the word nothing just but it’s just I guess as far as the work ethic like broka, he can go out there and he could do it very fearlessly because that’s who he is. Like me, I’m not scared. And it’s just like I go, I’m not going to let it get to me at all. But I still have the anxiety of
Kea [00:10:53] being true to yourself is really what you got to focus on. You know what I’m saying? Because, I mean, even though I mean, I’m not like an artist, I don’t like you. I’m not like performing in front of people.
Sean [00:11:02] But this is the art of people. So podcasting is art. You can talk to people as well to it’s called the gift of gab, right? Oh, wow.
Kea [00:11:10] Yeah, actually. Oh yeah. My mom said that. You’re right. Oh wow. OK, so I definitely like take that statement back I guess. Well I guess it’s just because, like, you know, we’re having a conversation right now. So it’s like really calm, cool and relaxed in, you know, if I happen to like blend in, I can always go back in my like.
Sean [00:11:30] Exactly.
Kea [00:11:32] And never had I mean, yeah, I did do one live, but it was like through my old roommate’s Instagram because we wanted to give people the opportunity to ask us questions at the same time. Yeah, technically podcasting is an art. I mean, technically we’re both like audio artists. I don’t even know that the great
Sean [00:11:53] audio work is of the audio artists, audio clashes. You can call it anything that you really want to, but as long as you keep audio, you can be an audio connoisseur.
Kea [00:12:06] You know, I probably need to learn a little bit more before I drop that, you know, kind of saw like after it, I’ll say like like, dang, I can’t even go like that right now.
Sean [00:12:20] I’m thinking, well, I’m going
Kea [00:12:22] no, literally. I’m like rattling my brain. So I decide like like do any words but any any any who. OK, so I kind of want to, I kind of want to start from like the beginning. So I want I want you to like take me back. How did this all began. I mean obviously like you have you have a passion for music, but I want to know when this all started. I want to know when it clicked in your mind, like, hey, this is what I want to focus on. This is like what I want to do. This is what I want to spend my time doing, kind of like take me back.
Sean [00:12:55] Oh, say twenty six. I was twenty six because that’s when I got my first keyboard for Christmas and I was going to him with it for a while and I realized that all my fingers when it comes to music, especially when it’s because I had a drum program for some reason for a keyboard, so I can just make the most simple, as simple, as dusty as you ever heard this side of the Mississippi. But I had had a beat machine on it. I didn’t know how to work in it. It lit up so it can guide you through it, but you wouldn’t make anything exquisite. You can’t sample with it and you can just use the drums that were on the keyboard. Oh, that’s awesome. And I also have a bunch of tape recorders in the house for some reason. Now I remember a song I used to take the radio. I used to take the radio because I didn’t have three play birds. I don’t have an MP three player at the time, so would take those tape recorders, I’ll put it next to the radio. And I recorded the whatever songs I like that’s going on, headphones, stuff like that. Then I discover instrumentals on YouTube and so that plus I always say People in my love watching generation baby what Iran’s most definitely and around. So one morning before school, this is like sixth grade. So the tape recorder hold up instrumental you too. And I just started writing and I started rapping to it and I was like, oh, look at that. I can record myself. It’s usually shitty, but because it was like a tape recorder, it was on the tape recorder. But I started to write from the I teach myself how to record it. It came in I used to suck really bad at school from seventh grade, and I used to fight a lot too, because my anger was put into place. So much pulled me out of the Guilford County School for a while. She homeschooled me for a year and a half and I did all my work early so I didn’t have a second semester. So I was just always in the house. I got. Cabin fever and vertigo for me, but I was always in the house, I was always in the house and I was always on the computer as well, too. And that’s when I discovered FLC just going around the Internet because Soulja Boy was popping around that time, if you remember. Twenty seven. And for the first time, he was the only artist that was actually saying how he did it say rather than like, well, it’s just me. I did it. He he, he actually was like I downloaded F.L. Studio how to maybe I downloaded Photoshop. I’ll learn how to make put those two together and then I start putting my music on MySpace and stuff like that. That’s his formula. And that’s literally what I’ve been off for ever since. So you can say soldier was also a helmet help in that as well. It’s in that area. And then fast forward to does in 2010, 2011. So when I got my first personal laptop to run time, I show you stuff like the first laptop and how many beats I had to make be officially on that, because the whole reason why I couldn’t really on the other computer is because I have parental control. So I do the. Yeah, because you got to remember, it’s a home. School is a whole school computer. So I have parental controls on it. So I can’t really download like the drums or any other toys or anything like that. So I just abandon it right then and there. But I did learn how to use Photoshop through it because a lot of do because it was Adobe is use for learning and stuff like this. So they just let it through the studio. The computer was like, oh no, that’s that’s not part of what we do about you. Right. Let me access it like that. So the computer that my mom got me was the Beats by Dre Dr. Dre computer, which I still have. It don’t work, but I still have it and own how to make beats and I just practice every day. If we ever had a class together, you would see me with the dang laptop out when I finish because remember they let us on our devices whenever we finished class, work early or whatever and I took full advantage of it, I was like, no, I’ll just use my computer. And it is they didn’t think about it. It looks like it was it’s the class laptop and maybe and then vice versa. And Nick threw his brother and we did a project which was half produced because you got the other half. He got other instrumentals from me to the other half that was creative. You made it pretty much together. I because he had a lot of input on, like, giving me samples of stuff like that. So he the collaboration was collaboration. I forgot the name of that project is like brainwash or something like that. It’s troublesome. So to this day. But I would say that’s the first official project, I mean, for anybody. But before I met Bags 2011, I met Chris. If I remember him, I met Chris. I’m a stage
Kea [00:18:04] name like like Alpha, Beta,
Sean [00:18:06] Alpha, Wombat, Chris. And if you remember year I met both of them a year like the way out. And you also did a smells and stuff like that. So he added me to Berkeley, which was already break dissolving at the time and left me, left me, Chris and cagy. And then around that same time I met Dhoruba and Corey and I added them to it because they was Rafi’s as well too. That’s all the reason. It’s all the way I connected with them because I was looking for the lab. This is like I think this is like as long as like they know how to live like rats, I’m like, what’s wrong with you in my Dhoruba car when I knew how to do that and stuff with. And so I added in to that wish. And that was me. Chris Cage, a car that was was known as We Only Live Life, which is worth and I added I think added bags to it. But he was already doing some his brother derrieres and that was like action pack or something like that. And for push for
Kea [00:19:13] that over like yeah.
Sean [00:19:14] Sorry and all bonded over music and push, push for like I would say two thousand fifteen and then Corey left. K.J. didn’t like the music that was making, it was different from his and so he left this world too. So it was me. Chris Dhoruba Nick also Timmy is ten bags. Sorry, sorry. All these nicknames. Nick introduced this to Timmy. She’s a little broken out, she’s known as. He introduced us to Timmy, vice versa. And then Timmy started hanging out with us. And so the core group became me, Chris, through Nick and Timmy. And also if you remember Charleton as well, it’s about.
Kea [00:19:56] Oh, yeah, the lost Right-Minded.
Sean [00:19:59] He ain’t short no more so-called short.
Kea [00:20:02] Not short, but like I remember now, because, like I remember like one time, and this is like at the far off, like Spring Garden, like it was like me, Lauren and I was like the can I have it or whatever. But yeah, I just like, remember him that way. But anyways.
Sean [00:20:15] Yeah, but that became known as Misfit Card. So we did a whole outproduce the whole album for them and stuff that and then executive produced the solo albums and did covers a surfer like too bad to draw the covers like designs behind the more color to volume and stuff like that or just add some words to it. You know, we had we still have a band which is still up. If you want to embarrassedly, look at all the old 12, 15 or covid music and stuff like that. And then twenty sixteen came everybody. And all that stuff was the like everybody everybody left the group, even though there was still like clubbiness of the everybody left the group. So in 2016, I don’t know what happened. I think I just got tired of just waiting. That makes sense. I got tired of waiting. So I was like I’m just go ahead and put my foot on the gas pedal and I hit a TIMI. I was like, You want to make a record label? He was like, Yeah, why not? I mean, it is. It is. You can get the paperwork and stuff. The other a good impression so we can just officially start drafting music and stuff. And so that became mission of records worldwide, which everybody knows. And it started from just like me and him being just like broke his foot and like just tired of waiting, you know. And then we added, Chris, because, like, I am about to leave, like he’s the first person I did this without anybody at all. So I had Chris. And then we started we created a character that made sense and created a character out of this one kid that was trying to be a rapper. And we pretty much created this whole image that makes sense, created this whole image, the way things that he rap over, things that he says, everything kind of backfired. But that was Cedric James. I don’t think he’s ever met him. But he was he was part of the group at one point. Chris, Chris met him somewhere. I forgot, but we pretty much taught them how to read because he didn’t know exactly how to rap on cadence and things like that. So we taught them how to read them and a little bit stuff. So much mentalists. And then he just went off there, you know, and all too, I guess, because he’s not part of it no more. Even though the debut album from the label, he’s still on giving the stuff.
Kea [00:22:50] I’m actually curious. OK, so like when you say like, how do you teach someone how to, like, grab like how how does that go?
Sean [00:22:57] Like, I mean, it’s not exactly teaching somebody how to rap and it’s just teaching them how to say, OK, it’s like yeah, fagots had that problem a little bit when we was first started working together. And he’s much better, you know, he’s an artist now makes all right rather than randomly like he was a you got to the point where he started honing his skills and I guarantee like, OK, like what type of beef we have or anything like that or anything that man can still outrun anybody. I know. Yeah I know that for it. But he still out rap anybody I know because the way he, he kind of reminded me of just old school is where it’s just like he got bars on top of bars. Bars as you’re thinking about bars on his face, you’d be like Damariscotta. You sound pretty sure he’s still got it to this day. I ain’t. That’s no, I’m pretty sure he said. But whatever he wants to do, whatever makes him happy. But I’m pretty sure he can still out rap and he can go toe to toe with Earl Sweatshirt. And he he he he played with that statement. Sorry, he laughs be like, why are you telling him that? He’s like, nah nah nah. I guarantee if you put them in a versus where it was just nothing like that. Hit for four hit with just bars. It comes to a stalemate I promise you. So yeah.
Kea [00:24:18] That was like I wish, I wish that somehow like one of us had like leverage to actually like make that happen.
Sean [00:24:26] I’m like, I’m going to give it to him. Like he I will never say that accurate. But in fact I would never say that now. Never. Come on my my will never, never be the fruition. Even if I tried my hardest. You still put me up in Baltimore. I know that first year well.
Kea [00:24:46] I let you give credit where credit is due, being able to like recognize like everyone’s talent around you are still like honing in on your own, you know, and.
Sean [00:24:57] But I like him. All right. All right. Go back to the surgical site. Good news is people are at this, so I really teach them how to rap especially well, if they don’t have, like words and stuff together, then you have to teach words of the like. Usually what I come across somebody that’s like like showed me how to do this. They already got words ready. They just don’t know how to be beat. That makes sense.
Kea [00:25:20] You got to make it follow.
Sean [00:25:22] Yeah. And it’s like I’m halfway good. Durable is more durable and crisp or more better at teaching people how to do it, because Chris taught me how to say more, how to read them and more about subjects, my staying on subjects not like straying away. Chris did that for sure. But other than that, I mean to and Chris built that image that with I’m not saying that as a dish or anything like of a work, it’s all all but that. And then we was just signing people. I forgot all the people that I saw, although that first that we used to sign people to the label. At one point I think young and gifted was one, this girl named Jane, Tom, Jane, and she was one of them as well, to listen to a whole variety. It was all family because we all do the same shows, which is true of your show. This is like all like I don’t know what happens to the picture, but there’s a whole there’s a picture of literally the entire mischief family bags. And it was in everybody’s literally, you know, so like it’s like if I if I ever find that picture, show it to show how big the label was. At one point, everybody’s in that one picture. And then this and this is why I told everybody when I saw them too. It’s like I’m not holding your Islamicists. It’s like I’m going to hold your contract. This is word mouth. So if y’all want to split, do whatever you want to do, that’s perfectly fine with me and that’s perfectly fine with me to just give you two weeks notice and wish they didn’t know because I’m not like I remember the whole thing about people like strapon better opportunities. I’m not to be like world. They need to go for it, do it like go do what you need to do. Will do go have fun with it. That’s the whole point is just like the British off until you get to where you are comfortable, you know. So it’s, it’s like a whole bunch of people left the suffering of the core, which is me to me. Chris Narangba, S.J and then we saw it one more person to the group. So this is why I forgot the mission. So this mischief reckless and in this group mischiefs, the group mischiefs me to me, Chris in the group for how it used to be, and then Sedra. And then we also added this one to the delivery boy and his name is Emori. He writes and sings with his shoes off
Kea [00:28:00] like it’s like he just have socks on or something.
Sean [00:28:02] Oh hell no. Barefoot. You have to go to one of his shows. He’s always barefoot.
Kea [00:28:07] Oh, that that is definitely an eclectic trait.
Sean [00:28:11] Rain, sleet, snow, cold, hot. He out there with no shoes on and that’s on his characteristics. And then we went on tour twenty eighteen with the, with the we were so much of places but this one specific one was in to move to Texas during that whole bunch which happened in Sedrick in delivery boy left third day. Little things for your children. They made children’s music. You as I’ve heard like
Kea [00:28:44] Schoolhouse Rock
Sean [00:28:45] I like more like PBS.
Kea [00:28:49] Oh yeah.
Sean [00:28:51] Like you know, like every day when you walk across the street like that at that time, you actually know. Right. Anything for the kids, you know, sense of peace to so and of right now it’s just I just, I would say to things a little bit more reorganize which I’ll start with because I just had a kid. So like
Kea [00:29:16] is by the
Sean [00:29:16] way. Thank you. Thank you. It is like real high. I’m still making beats me. And him is still making music of course, but they got to a point where things was weird. Is this like I don’t know what was going on with the latter half in twenty nineteen we did a show with this big name artists and nobody showed up whatsoever. It was the weirdest thing to this because is just like
Kea [00:29:41] this they’re like publicity or one.
Sean [00:29:44] Oh like this is part of the story and nobody showed above, you know what I’m saying. And I mean that’s kind of half his fault because he was telling people is like some artists come in Greensborough and they get a Ylva for like for some reason or whatever, and then they’d be like, oh, this don’t come to. So whatever, and then they change minds halfway through, I asked them to show to the show and by that time nobody comes because, you know, just one person’s ego. So this big, like ego, kind of like all of Austin and how people were going to come to that show. And it turned out to where it was only four or five people, and that’s four, five people. There is nobody that makes it. So I after that, it was just like we just got to reorganize because this is the second time it happened with a big name artists. We just got to reorganize. So, you know, it’s just a period of reorganization. And then covid happened, which still that by another year. You know, Stan you know, Tim, we try to still do shows with his friends the frenzy. Yes. It’s always the, you know, still kind of limited, you know, because we go like the restrictions are coming back. So I would say whenever restrictionist lives and we can leave the state again without with a peace of mind, that’s for mischief will come that for now, just trying to trying to maintain for it. Then they said,
Kea [00:31:09] oh, of course. So I mean, I guess too, like with covid happening, it’s definitely given like more time to gather your thoughts and like with the whole, you know, organizing, like, really you really have time to like kind of like hone in what you want to focus on so that. Yeah, basically, I mean ideally in twenty, twenty one, you know, out here
Sean [00:31:31] daily, I pray every day
Kea [00:31:35] like oh gosh, I be hoping every hope man. But OK, so would you say that touring would be your number one priority as far as like what you want to do. Like when covid and then we can go back outside.
Sean [00:31:49] Well me I don’t like touring myself honestly I the only aspect of touring like is seeing sights, but it can become really dangerous if that makes it especially the thousand miles away. Think is just dangerous. You know, I mean, I’m dangerous. This is like and I predict this as well too, because it’s it’s just dangerous for rappers just like to be out and about. No, I’m saying, like even low to your average, like getting shot and killed or something like that, you know, even hearing about and I saw it coming and it started with X and I just saw it coming, just start trickling down. And now it’s to the point where it is really like a rapper getting shot every week. And it’s just a it’s just a dark time. The tour. I know like I don’t know if that’s because of quarantine people being cooped up in the house or whatever, but is literally like I’m not even camping. It’s just like it said I was just as a rapper that get shot every week by literally every week, you know, and I just don’t want to be I don’t want to get caught lacking especially like a thousand miles away, like California, Chicago or something like that. That’s my whole itinerary. Timmy, Timmy, stay danger. You’re saying you don’t stay safe. You stay. DAVIS So he’s going to do automatic. I told him it’s just like I feel like I’m a dad now. Yeah, hold that. You know, I’m saying I’m not getting caught for no reason whatsoever. Know I’m saying especially if it’s just like over just like rap music. You know, I’m saying it’s not even about doing anything. It’s just about, oh, you were this to social search. And it will be like gang attire like that is like, oh, you got a nice chain. Oh, you must represent. Oh, take that. Oh, you don’t like this. Take that. We just go and shoot you to you know. And so it’s, it’s just mad
Kea [00:33:49] are just too many, too many unknown factors,
Sean [00:33:51] too many unknown factors. Now my boy is like twenty, twenty, twenty two. I really would, I really wouldn’t mind. Bit like these are the key moments where I need to be in his life. No. Those of waiting for full aspect, you know, so is just trying to stay safe and it’s just not safe out there like it used to be. It wasn’t safe for the big name boys. Now it’s not safe and nobody’s
Kea [00:34:20] thinking about that.
Sean [00:34:22] But I don’t like telling people that maybe be like that in public because Lord knows, like, I’ve had people like Sparboe all like, oh, he may be I just get a little nervous, like, oh, what the hell is about to happen now? Is he going to ask asking for my contact information or is he going to try to rob me? Like that’s how that’s the boy who has gotten so. Mhm. Yeah. Just trying to stay safe.
Kea [00:34:45] Yeah. So I mean yeah. Because like your number one priority, you guys like being a dad right now, you know, and those are like the most crucial years. It’s like definitely the beginning. So making sure that like you’re there that’s. Crazy, right,
Sean [00:35:03] but I’m probably a problem, you can go out and you have to just keep. You see, this person got shot, dispersive Gosia, just propitiation this person. Gosia is sick. And his message
Kea [00:35:16] is, it’s like, I don’t know if it’s that, you know, crabs in a barrel thing where if people see, you know, you’re
Sean [00:35:24] most definitely is the crab in the building with some crab. Liberal crab had a damn good bye. That’s the way it is. Like, yeah, people will tell you to take swipes issue Tulchin about how they just want to kill you, like,
Kea [00:35:43] OK, so so I actually have a personal question now. Are you a registered gun owner? I’m just curious because it’s got me thinking that
Sean [00:35:50] I need to go back to college somewhere. College is like up to an area that we have a protest over there and they would chase random people in the and bring them up. So I would be so desperate.
Kea [00:36:04] Yeah. Yeah. Serious, because I’m like the more you talk about safety, not saying like the solution is for everyone to like, you know, start packing because I mean, you know, that’s a whole nother story, which actually is interesting because like I think at Lenox Mall, like because they’re on private property, they like banned guns on the property. Now, which, you know, that in itself is crazy because I’m like getting a shot at the mall. Like, can we just all like you are going to in there but.
Sean [00:36:33] Huh, exactly. As if I were people getting shot at the mall.
Kea [00:36:37] Yeah. And I’m like, wait, hold on. People like who do music are like out here like for each other even when it’s summer.
Sean [00:36:45] Yeah. Some are, some are here for each other and some are genuinely like yeah let’s come like this to have you know. So there’s one, there’s this one half. I love you the other half fuck you. And it’s no end. Well there is in between is called me to face but you know. Oh no
Kea [00:37:08] way. Like Oh my way. OK, so let’s talk about that. All right. People who come to you, they’re like, OK, hey, I like what you do, you know, let’s link like listen to what I’m working with. How do you how do you how do you decipher between two people? I’m too big to fail people. I can even talk. I’m genuinely curious because yeah. You must come across people who actually like are not as genuine as they seem.
Sean [00:37:35] Oh, I can tell when they too face is ok. Say that say you say that you’re going to make beats but you let them know you’re my schedule. So there’s going to be a week. You know I’m saying OK, there’s going to be a week and then it hits you three days later. Yo man, where’s my Beita. Such and such and such and such. And you tell them again, like, I’m sorry, my schedule is literally back up to the point where I can’t make you something right now. My schedule is little, but I thought saying that to be lazy, it’s literally backed up and then they’ll go on the whole tower will in then such. That’s how that’s all there was to face the whole damn time, you know.
Kea [00:38:15] But that’s not it. Like it’s not the move.
Sean [00:38:19] Right.
Kea [00:38:20] Well, I just like, you know, I think and I mean, even people like not in your industry can understand we all have our own respective timelines. And, you know, like in your case, obviously, like you’re like a dad before you’re an artist, you know, it’s like having that level of respect and like people’s time.
Sean [00:38:40] So it’s just like, yeah, this is the other way. It’s like if you’re doing like if you’re really like somewhere with the person that places like a show or something like that, like this. I met this dude in a Huckerby. I forget his name was over there and this man was trying to tell me who he was and that he wanted to kill us. Right. OK, then, you know, drinks a little bit more, comes back to where I’m at again. Yo, fuck you, man. Like, I’m pretty sure you ain’t got me. You ain’t gonna make my beats just like the way I’m sorry damn produces and all that. So she’s just like you run into weirdo’s hospital. I just run into some weirdos who go over some genuine people like you really can’t run into some genuine people like Andy Sophs. He’s a he’s a big is a big artist in North Carolina. His name is Andy Source and he’s nice. And he saw like
Kea [00:39:42] it’s like the genre of music or like indie, like I’m in these like streets.
Sean [00:39:46] It’s like more like the genre spill in DUI. I met him at the back of one of the shows that was thrown. And I think you performed there as well, too. But he was he’s a genuine do like you don’t care if you. Black, white, Mexican for alien, he care as long as you you are not like trying to, like, do anything wrong him. You just want you to say that. Yeah. So, like, it’s genuine people like that. That’s why you can’t always judge a book by its cover. I met this man. God was all I thought he was a caricature, the 20s, which I really did like. You know how it was to he appears as referee at the same time. There’s little to he could freestyle right then and there. You know, he needs to be bigger than he actually is. But he’s just. Yeah, he’s but he’s a genuine dude. He’s a very Mos Def. So if you run and you run into different types of characters, then
Kea [00:40:49] that’s what that’s what I actually. OK, so so OK. So you were just like yeah. He’s like really good at free styling. Honestly, I’m always like really admired people who are really good at it because it’s yeah. It’s just, it’s such like an enigma to me that you could just be like, OK, so we’re back in the day. So like one of the guys in park, I usually watch it all the time, like, oh would say like they would have those like, you know, those like two people like they’d give them a topic like Froot Loops and then they would have to, you know, rap about Froot Loops. And I just always thought it was so interesting how you could just like throw something at somebody and they could just take it and run with it, you know, because I’m not that quick of a thinker. And so to just, like, listen to people, I’m like, oh, my goodness gracious. Like your mind. It just it it just works so fast. How and it flows like, what is this exactly.
Sean [00:41:48] And Bags is really good that you throw them in a topic like, say rap about gemology and he’ll really do it like he’ll he’ll twist it. You’ll be like, oh you called this like that’s the most definitely the term we can do that is with Chris a little bit. Chris, Chris is more of a writer writer of that sense, you know, but I would say always get them is probably one of the best results. I know. So, you know.
Kea [00:42:21] Oh, man. Yeah, I can’t do it.
Sean [00:42:25] I can’t freestyle. I can’t freestyle or dance. And that’s because I got auditory, processed and way. So it’s it’s like I have to think about everything I say that makes it right. Then it’s there. So it’s impossible to freestyle. You know, I freestyle halfway, I can say a line and then the next level will come five minutes later. We automatically, you know, like how Bush can do it is.
Kea [00:42:53] Oh yeah. I think yeah. Like a one line and then like, all right, there we go. One line. There you go by the.
Sean [00:43:02] And you said like how I could get myself to write four albums and stuff is beyond me. I can’t do it no more. So I’ll produce more rap these days. Will I, could I do so back in the day is beyond me. No. OK, I did it, I did it. But I kind of freestyle. That’s used to take me, I frustrate myself special and people be like yo write this song right now. I can’t do it. Like the best way for me to do a song somebody is you tell me a week in advance, a whole week to write that song and then I gosh, I can’t be right right there in the studio. No. Like I’m overthink too much. It’s just not going to happen.
Kea [00:43:43] Yeah. I’d be like, oh my God. Wait. Like too much pressure. Pressure. I like what this pilot is doing. I mean, honestly, I think like I mean, I kind of like this before, but knowing your strength and knowing your weaknesses and like knowing, you know. Like what you’re good at focusing on that. And then, like you said, you like to produce more now anyways. So, you know, that’s a plus. But OK. And I’m probably going to like, OK, so and so you like mentioned some people that like I don’t know, like who are rappers in Greensboro and I’m like asking for their Instagram or something just because one of the things that I was like curious about, OK, so and they don’t have to be like Greensboro people. But for the listeners who are going to be tuning into this episode, who are some people like, we don’t know who we’re like really good artists, like really good lyricists that we should know about
Sean [00:44:38] who he’s a good lyricist of O Come Ye the Lord on Instagram ground as if that’s still what it is. I can’t remember but a few of us ago and he’ll make you cry. He’ll make you laugh. He’ll make your way. She’ll make you still make you do everything emotional or. Some music and then Andy saw us. Of course, I like him a lot the years either. I think is kind of saying, OK, I could be wrong. Don’t don’t yell at me if you hear this. I forgot. Where you from? North Carolina. Not after that. It’s over. It’s a real good artists. Who else come to think about. Oh, hello. Brokenhearted for us vis a vis other countries will feel like a goth way. Types of instruments and keep my secrets is another to another. Oh say eclectic wherever the restless you more saying he
Kea [00:45:40] sounds mystical like with a name.
Sean [00:45:42] Oh and he, he every he doesn’t perform quite straight tricks. Have you ever been to one of our shows before. Like you hear people rapping on the same empathy. He brings a whole band with him so he’s, he’s a hot ticket. That makes sense. If we ever go to one of his shows and he has a group called Fang, which to me is also, you know, halfway called We Produce Four, which is well, they’re they’re they’re pretty they’re pretty neat in a four and four inch. And another good reference will tune us in a group. So maybe it’s from him. Before he was going to think about a hazy. He’s a rapper I met out in California. He’s really good. My friend Trex produces for a hazy AI, underscore how easy he makes. He makes good music, but you got to tune in because he believes a lot of his songs. Yeah, he does the songs from time to time, like he has this one good song that he dropped when I went out there and it’s not there no more.
Kea [00:46:47] OK, real talk we need to like. OK, let’s stop. When I explain this to me, first of all, I thought like if you were an artist you would like one, like your content easily accessible to people like at all times. So if you like, put like, you know, like work into something or why would you like is this like a Beyoncé title thing? We’re like, you’ve got to go like
Sean [00:47:09] people like that. It’s just this thing. God bless you. And God, that prince came up in a town where he put my records on wax was a record and wet because I’m pretty sure he would be he would have been the same way if he was younger and had said he would be in tracks left and right and even before himself. I know press press does. The press tried to do that like he has like five albums is the part that you’ll never hear that’s just sitting in a vault that he’s done. This is back in the eighties, 80s and 90s. He has so much music and in like I Forgot The Dream Factory, that’s the name of one of them. That’s a name to leak from one of them. He has an album called The Dream Factory, and he has four other ones that he recorded, but he keeps away from everybody. And this man once said that Batman album, the original demos that he did for was were duets between him and Michael Jackson. There’s a whole album between Prince, Michael Jackson that’s just sitting in a vault somewhere that you’ll never get you’re never going to hear every one. What artists are like
Kea [00:48:21] that the world
Sean [00:48:23] artists are like that experience,
Kea [00:48:25] just like what you hear.
Sean [00:48:27] It’s like they had the final and to just to get out that original originals like Morris Day in the Tom have a song called Jungle Love that was really popular. But Prince originally did that song. You just never released it. He gave it more his day and they just now put it out like just a few years ago because they got like halfway halfway entrance into the vault. But all the other stuff is legit, like when Prince Prince had set up just in case he died. And it’s so weird. So he has so little. First of all, the first layer of the vault is the vault is the stuff that he wanted people to like when he died. He wanted that he wanted that stuff to be put up. And then another layer to the vault, which only he has his password to. That is just like locked in is just a of old stuff that you’re never going to hear. And those who just into us are in this like, yeah, it’s just just a whole bunch of things in this world that you do not know about. That is just like the way that you just find out through hearsay, I promise you.
Kea [00:49:30] OK, OK. So like, all right. How I phrase this. OK, so I guess like I can understand that because like I mean obviously like everyone else prince but like OK, so what’s his name. Alcalay. I forgot about it. I’m so sorry. Wow. OK, if people don’t like know you know, like, if everyone doesn’t know you know you then why would you do it.
Sean [00:49:58] Just because maybe in some. Thomas is the person other things or two, maybe you don’t like the way that your ceremony is, so you don’t want nobody else here. I got a much chance like that, but I got so I’m not put up whatsoever. Can lose. No, I don’t. OK, I don’t want people to realize that, you know,
Kea [00:50:16] OK, that makes sense. If you if you release something and then like, take it back, that’s what this is still. I’m like I’m trying to make the math, like, out of my head. And I’m like, if at one point, you know, you I’m sorry, I don’t have to harp on this. I just didn’t know that was a thing.
Sean [00:50:36] And it’s not an argument. Sometimes it can be a superficial thing, sometimes it is not. But that’s a lot of things like Michael Jackson has a bunch of stuff that you never knew. You think he was just not doing nothing. Between two thousand and one and two thousand. And I’m like,
Kea [00:50:53] OK, yeah, well that sounds OK. So, yeah, for like, you know, for people who were in the game forever and who, you know, everyone like around the world knows, like I can understand that, but like, yeah, it’s still it’s still like for the people who want to really, really, really like make a name for themselves if they already let it out, like why would they just take it out even though it’s like
Sean [00:51:15] and now there’s some circumstances like like New Orleans, like when Hurricane Katrina hit all Louis Armstrong’s records, all his unreleased records got destroyed, you know, saying it’s things like that. Or like when Wu Tang Clan came out, there was supposed to be other solo albums with the classic solo albums like his album Ghostface Killah album Why Inspector Dick had a whole album which was already considered a classic before it came out. It was already ready, but is of a blood in his basement. He lost a whole bunch of projects and that was one of them, you know. So it’s just the circumstances, just real life circumstances. Like Bob Marley had a release. He had a whole album that was ready to drop. But after a confrontation like it was supposed to be, a tetralogy is supposed to know it’s supposed to be a trilogy is supposed to be Rozin and confrontation. The original confrontation. When he died, people broke into his house and they stole all records, you know what I’m saying? So the original version of the album never got released. So they had to go get what they already had. And they remixed the vocals that they already had, stuff like that. And now you have the album. What is all this confrontation? But the original lie and it original had different songs, had different different different versions of the original songs on the new newer version of stuff. And in August, the whole, you know, Jamaicans can be kind of ruthless like that. But, you know, it’s just just circumstances like that. Yeah. Oh, wow. That’s a whole other sort of world of music like the world will never get to hear because things like that.
Kea [00:52:56] Yeah. Oh, I like it when I listen back to this. I’m going to like I’m literally sitting here like I am like really your shit. Like, yes. Like I like I had to sit back in my chair for a second because I was like, wow, I’m like, you
Sean [00:53:12] know, some things I know through people.
Kea [00:53:15] So that’s the way in which oh, there’s levels to this. There’s layers and layers.
Sean [00:53:27] There’s layers to this stuff like no, this is off topic, but I’m related on those off topic, but I’m related to Bendek on this like the one where this layer. So a lot of things that make me
Kea [00:53:44] think like I should like start asking people fun facts like, hey, like let me make like a fun fact. I’m going to write that down, actually, because I’d be like that’s like that’s like good content like shit that people would never be able to ask you
Sean [00:53:59] for you would you want to do in no
Kea [00:54:02] way would let your fun fact
Sean [00:54:06] it’s part of is that makes its
Kea [00:54:08] way. Oh my God is there and you worry
Sean [00:54:10] you put this all to the podcast if you want to. But I was just like telling the stories and this
Kea [00:54:16] I mean, I’m always here for a story
Sean [00:54:19] were so unrelated to the first mayor of Philadelphia, like the whole area where is is like named after you by that part of the family shippings ville or shipments of wherever. Shivan is the first mayor of Philadelphia. Yeah. And unrelated to him, to his sister, his sisters. My Thom’s fifteen great grandmother is, you know, trickle down day family. Sorry, they family says slaves. And then that’s where they came from. That’s what I mean.
Kea [00:55:05] Yeah, look at
Sean [00:55:06] that’s what a black comes into play. You know, as to why I go on to stuff like that and keep on it down. And then the Ligas, which is like they’re my great, great cousin, is they own half the land in Raleigh that they own half of Raleigh, the Masons. And my grandmother, great grandmother Juanita, gave birth to my grandfather, great grandfather, the great. It just trickles down back to me since the whole thing was brought back to the Benedict Arnold thing. Every ship and the great granddaughter is Benedict Arnold’s wife, and they had a kid together. So that makes me automatically related to him.
Kea [00:55:51] Oh, wow. That’s that’s a family tree right there.
Sean [00:55:56] And it’s all over Wikipedia.
Kea [00:55:58] Oh, my goodness. That’s a whole like that’s a whole separate thing because I don’t even know, like, my, like, family history like that. Like that. OK, let’s
Sean [00:56:10] I know all over the place with it. I’ll show you a whole list one day so it makes more sense. But like. Yeah. Wow. Famous because it’s
Kea [00:56:23] actually that actually sounds like like a like that sounds like a skit on a show famous cousins because like everyone’s like that’s my car, that’s my cousin.
Sean [00:56:34] Campfield did something like that. They really did. Is it was because you know about Thomas Jefferson and it. Yeah. So it was like there was going through the ancestry, it was like a fake SAAC cometrue. And they’re like, why have people in the in the in the in the day was naming off random like just like random people like Thomas Edison Roosevelt and every black person they kept saying Thomas Jefferson, Thomas motherfucking Jefferson, like all black people, was related to Thomas Jefferson. So they did something like that. So do what you said.
Kea [00:57:16] Oh, my God. Imagine you like. Yeah, I did my like actually crazy. I do my ancestry like. Hey you guys, guess what. Oh my.
Sean [00:57:27] Wow. Thomas Jefferson.
Kea [00:57:29] That’s OK. I’m like really recalibrating my brain right now because wow I that oh I have not heard a fact like that in a while and I’m like I need to get my guest to like drop some like fun facts on here. Oh wow. OK, so obviously like we talked about like a bunch of things, but I want you to like give the listeners like your takeaway points. So when people listen to this podcast episode and they look back on your episode, like, what do you really want to, you know, resonate with them?
Sean [00:58:12] No one is a a if you are doing what you like, doing a song is is not detrimental to your health or detrimental to your loved ones. Go for it. Like whether it’s right and making music, making video games. Do whatever. You tell my brother this all the time because he’s just a caricature of what I used to do when I was a kid. You know, sometimes ten. Why are you so what are you talking about wanting to build a computer. I want to go. This man built a computer. I used to try to learn how to play a guitar. I didn’t get I didn’t get for this man knows how to play guitar, so he learn first. I learn Photoshop. He learned the whole Adobe Spec, you know, like don’t be afraid to do whatever you want to do, you know, especially if his creativity does this whole. One of my main takeaways and I think another one of my takeaways is try to be humble is like I know years ago I wasn’t the most the most visual call, the most thorough person, you know. But it comes through just learning, you know, I’m saying like especially with angry and things like that and just trying to set yourself back and just tell yourself and fix it yourself at the same time, you know, and I just letting go of I let go of my grudges to emotions unless there’s road rage and then you have it. But but like, my God, this is like anybody is just like, okay, you know, this is I like to try to, like, kill me, you know? And it’s just like try not to hold as much grudges. And that makes sense, and if you do have a grudge for somebody that you fought with, for somebody that you love and so you try to try to like, go ahead and fix it up because it’s going to suck if you don’t the. At the heart of it, like you’re just trying to just trying to be better, you know. But I think this is what your 20s is for. It’s just like learning how to learn how to get rid of all that angst stuff when he was younger and just learning how to be an adult, you know? So don’t be afraid to do what you want to do is to like you, like you’re the perfect caricature of that because you’ll be doing what you want to do. Oh, yeah, we do it differently, like all these different hairstyles, different dresses and different locations. So if you did you still doing it? I got to give you your props. So, you know, like a you said you wanted to do a podcast about a second season. You’re not mistaken, right?
Kea [01:01:01] Yeah. No, I actually don’t have seasons. I kind of just like keep adding episodes
Sean [01:01:07] that that’s the basis of it. You can create your own syndication activity with season three, season four, you know, saying you can do it like Joe Rogan has different seasons, you know. So, yeah, that’s what I’m telling you. This is a podcast with me. Like, if you like doing it, go go hang with us on Spotify, which I think you’re already overqualified for a cigaret.
Kea [01:01:31] Mm hmm.
Sean [01:01:32] Yeah. And been
Kea [01:01:34] to platforms. Yeah.
Sean [01:01:35] And like I for podcast, always subscribe to you on there just for two or three people. It’s only I’m only subscribed to three people. Joe Rogan, Bill Berty with Keith, if you know what, I listen to a podcast so I don’t listen to many podcast, but I listen to it. Right. But I think the whole take away is be horrible, but don’t be afraid.
Kea [01:02:02] That’s that’s true. I mean, do what you want to do what you want within reason, of course. Do what you love to do, pursuing your passions and then. Yeah, really focusing on building the relationships that you have with people. So, you know, which is also why, like, thank you for wanting it to be a guest. Thank you for reaching out to me, too. I know that we don’t want some comments like. Oh yeah. I mean, you know, I feel like when when I left Greensborough, I didn’t really stay in touch as much as like
Sean [01:02:35] that’s perfectly fine. Don’t ever feel bad about the l mean. Well, a little bit, but
Kea [01:02:44] no, I just I am appreciative and I just I’m like, thank you to you just for making time for me, you know, thanks for listening to this episode of Tea With Kea.
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